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	<title>Comments on: Can You Do Better Than These Seven Ways To Negotiate Salary?</title>
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		<title>By: simonstapleton</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 11:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Mark - so many times I&#039;ve seen tis tactic used as a probationary, but then the expectations of a rise are dashed.... &#039;What Salary Rise was this?&#039;

We might have to accept deferred rises in the end, but I wouldn&#039;t without putting up a fight!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mark &#8211; so many times I&#8217;ve seen tis tactic used as a probationary, but then the expectations of a rise are dashed&#8230;. &#8216;What Salary Rise was this?&#8217;</p>
<p>We might have to accept deferred rises in the end, but I wouldn&#8217;t without putting up a fight!</p>
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		<title>By: Mark McClure Coaching</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark McClure Coaching</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 09:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve chatted to folks where deferred rises were a common tactic after tech team leaders were (internally) promoted into a management role with increased direct report numbers and responsibility.

I guess the theory is to first blood them with additional line mgt pressure while holding out the &quot;exceptional salary rise&quot; carrot and then assess if they survived the hot coals.

Since salary negotiations were secret I don&#039;t know if anyone bucked that trend and got the rise at same time as the promotion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve chatted to folks where deferred rises were a common tactic after tech team leaders were (internally) promoted into a management role with increased direct report numbers and responsibility.</p>
<p>I guess the theory is to first blood them with additional line mgt pressure while holding out the &#8220;exceptional salary rise&#8221; carrot and then assess if they survived the hot coals.</p>
<p>Since salary negotiations were secret I don&#8217;t know if anyone bucked that trend and got the rise at same time as the promotion.</p>
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		<title>By: simonstapleton</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 09:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Samuel - It&#039;s good to hear success stories using these tactics. I don&#039;t think we need to necessarily apply *all* of them, just a few can be helpful. I like your number 8 - that is a good point as it means we remain objective and keep ourselves honest.

Your closing statement is profound!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Samuel &#8211; It&#8217;s good to hear success stories using these tactics. I don&#8217;t think we need to necessarily apply *all* of them, just a few can be helpful. I like your number 8 &#8211; that is a good point as it means we remain objective and keep ourselves honest.</p>
<p>Your closing statement is profound!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Samuel Van Der Wall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Samuel Van Der Wall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 15:23:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with this list.  When I switched jobs two years ago I negotiated a pay increase.  Without researching at all, I did some of these naturally.  I knew what I wanted (#1).  I researched my current job and what I was going into (#2).  I asked everyone at the new job what benefits they had (#3).  I negotiated myself, one on one, with the person responsible for hiring me (#4).  

However, I didn&#039;t do (#6) or (#7), and I actually went contrary to (#5).  I accepted an equal wage at my new employer.  However, I knew it was at written in their wage contracts to give substantial raises at four months and one year.  And that&#039;s exactly what they did.  

If I were going to add a (#8), I would say, &quot;Be ready to walk away from any job interview without remorse.&quot;  I wanted that new job and I made that apparent.  But I also really knew that if it didn&#039;t work out, I was willing to walk away without issues and continue looking.

Salary negotiation is limited work for lifetime benefit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with this list.  When I switched jobs two years ago I negotiated a pay increase.  Without researching at all, I did some of these naturally.  I knew what I wanted (#1).  I researched my current job and what I was going into (#2).  I asked everyone at the new job what benefits they had (#3).  I negotiated myself, one on one, with the person responsible for hiring me (#4).  </p>
<p>However, I didn&#8217;t do (#6) or (#7), and I actually went contrary to (#5).  I accepted an equal wage at my new employer.  However, I knew it was at written in their wage contracts to give substantial raises at four months and one year.  And that&#8217;s exactly what they did.  </p>
<p>If I were going to add a (#8), I would say, &#8220;Be ready to walk away from any job interview without remorse.&#8221;  I wanted that new job and I made that apparent.  But I also really knew that if it didn&#8217;t work out, I was willing to walk away without issues and continue looking.</p>
<p>Salary negotiation is limited work for lifetime benefit.</p>
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